My Parents Don’t Like Me

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Dear Cary,

I am glad you started up again with Since You Asked, way over there in Italy. I hope Italy is not a sad place now, but it must be, a whole generation of grandparents has died off. This summer will be a season of national mourning for Italians; the Christmas season will feature so many families experiencing that first difficult holiday without their beloved parents and grandparents.

This is much on my mind because my parents don’t like me. They never have, really, but I have ignored it and spent my life buying their love. I bought them trips to Vegas and cruises to Alaska. I bought my mom expensive jewelry for birthdays and Christmas, and power tools for my dad. I would always ‘forget’ and leave the price tag on so they would know how much I spent – I thought that would make them like me better, clearly I was honoring my father and mother with my gifts.  When I moved away, I made sure to visit home frequently – at least twice a year. I would send birthday cards by FedEx to make sure they arrived on time.

Nothing has changed them. They tolerate me but do not approve of me. People insist that parents love children but my parents do not hug or kiss me (I can count on one hand the times either of them have done so). If anything their dislike has grown over the years, and especially lately.  I don’t know if it’s the virus keeping everyone inside, so they are glued to Fox News more often than usual…or if my differences from the rest of the family have just become too insurmountable for them.  They go to church, I do not. They want abortion banned, I do not. They are openly racist, I try never to be.

I’m angry about their continued rejection, because I grew up in a household with a lot of psychological and emotional abuse; actual physical abuse was not as common, but the threat of it was a daily thing.  My dad hasn’t  laid a hand on me for a long time, but the last time he threatened me, I had to flee the house, and I have only been back one time since then, for a wedding of a sibling, and that’s been the only time I’ve seen them in a decade.

I call on holidays, mother’s day, father’s day, birthdays.  If the conversation goes well – by that, I mean, if no one calls me a godless baby murderer, a feminazi, a Dim-o-crat, or some other shitty slur of my values – then you can be sure the next conversation will go badly.

I’m 60 years old. I don’t want to hang up from talking to my parents feeling like a teenager, crying hysterically. My husband is tired of it – he’s not unempathetic, but he doesn’t see why I can’t accept what is plain as the nose on my face – my family doesn’t like me, never has, and despite my obvious good qualities, I am never going to win their affection. Most days I can accept this, but lately – the past year or so – it’s become very difficult. I find myself thinking that they must be right, that I am *not* in fact a good person, or loveable in any way. I start mentally going through the list of my flaws and mistakes; I get so despondent, I don’t see the point in living anymore, which is not exactly the same as being suicidal, but it is a close cousin.

My parents will not live much longer. I see my friends with their close relationships with their parents, how badly they miss them when they pass away, and I am filled with a frantic, panicked longing. My mom had a close relationship with *her* mom – what the fuck is wrong with me, that she can reject me so consistently for sixty years? Whatever is wrong with me, why can’t they forgive/accept me?

During this pandemic, so many people are full of sadness they can’t be with their families. I’ve found it freeing to know that I can’t be with them even if I wanted to, because I have an excuse – the virus.  I don’t want to be with them, though – it is far, far too painful. I thought I could stay away and have a phone-only relationship but even that is not possible, unless I am willing to just totally subsume who I am, and accept every terrible thing they say to/about me without comment. I would like to be able to do that, but the resultant self-hatred is just too difficult and could end up hurting my marriage.

How do I accept that my parents are never going to love me? Do I keep trying to stay in touch with them? They have never once called me, nor visited me, in my entire life, so if there is to be a relationship it can only be one way – that much is clear. I think of them dying and I become overwhelmed with the grief I have carried my whole goddamn life. I guess I am asking for a way to think about this that doesn’t make me feel even worse than they have already succeeded in making me feel.

Black Sheep

Dear Black Sheep,

This is such a great letter. People are going to love this. Because you have opened a Pandora’s box. This is so taboo, this idea that parents would not like their kids! Because there is apparently this unwritten law, or maybe it’s actually written, that parents must like their kids. They must in fact love their kids and show this in a million different ways, demonstrate it to their kids, make sure their kids know it, lest they ever doubt it. Lest their kids ever be so ungrateful as to doubt that the parental love is all-powerful and enduring and ever-present.

Yeah. News flash dude. Thanks for presenting a clear counter-example. Parents don’t always like their kids, and sometimes they don’t even pretend to like their kids.

Bravo! But it hurts. It hurts bigtime. Because we kids have expectations.

Now. You don’t have to suffer about this. It doesn’t have to be your problem. There is a way to live a happy life in spite of this behavior of your parents.

I recommend the book “Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy” by Dr. David Burns. The basic approach is cognitive therapy, which is a method of replacing the crazy thoughts that are causing you anguish with a set of true, undistorted thoughts that will not cause you anguish. I know I’m not explaining it very well. You’ll have to read the book. And may I say that the book talks a lot about depression and you don’t sound like you’re depressed and neither was I when I used this book. I just had a situation in my life that was causing me pain and I wanted a solution to it.

Here is how it helped me. I’ve told this story before but I will tell it again because it is true. I had a problem. It had to do with wanting certain other people to be a different way. And while your problem is better than mine, in that you seem to have a perfect right to want your parents to treat you with love and respect, my problem was different, because there was no rational reason why editors at a hip New York magazine should love me. Yet I sort of wanted them to and it was causing me anguish because every interaction was difficult. So I had stopped calling my editor. I was pacing the room, picking up the phone, putting it down, pacing the room, wanting to call my editor, not calling my editor, starting to call my editor, stopping, putting the phone down, pacing the room, deciding to call later, not calling later, worrying.

So I actually went to a therapist. I didn’t know that he would have the keys to the universe of my suffering but he did. He told me to buy a book and read it and I did. The book was the Dr. David Burns book “Feeling Good.” What a dumb title, right? But OK as an obedient patient and student (I do what I’m told) I bought it and read it and it worked.

For instance, it is clear that your parents are lacking in some of the feelings that many people take to be normal. They are apparently not only unwilling but incapable of behaving in the way that you wish they would behave. They are never going to do what you want them to do. They can’t. They won’t. They never will.

Because your wishes are in many respects normal, I suspect that it’s hard to let them go. Your anguish comes from having fervent wishes that are never granted. It happens over and over. Every time you encounter your parents you feel that longing for an expression of love and esteem. Every time your wish is denied and it is very painful. And it’s hard to let go of that wish because it seems right and normal.

It might be less painful if your wish were to throw a ninety-mile-an-hour fastball. That wish is a little unrealistic. Your wishes seem utterly normal. And yet. And yet the reality is that they will never be granted.

Therefore, the cure is to let go of those wishes, and the trick is, how do you do that. It can be a great release to let go of those wishes, to recognize them as dysfunctional thoughts, in that they run counter to reality, and to combat them, using Dr. Burns’ simple methods, with thoughts that are true.

Burns’ method involves a process of listing those “dysfunctional thoughts,” taking daily inventory of them as you go about your business (I used a little notebook and rather than disturbing it was actually interesting!), and then countering them with true thoughts. You find the subliminal thoughts that flit through your mind, below the threshold of awareness, you make them visible, and see how ridiculous they are, and apply truth tests to them. These truth tests reveal how untrue they are. As you see how untrue they are, they lose their power. You gradually replace those “dysfunctional” thoughts with thoughts that are true. Often these true statements are reassuring. They are verifiable, undeniable, and perhaps even compassionate, and they make you feel better.

It worked for me. That was many years ago and I continue to use those methods to this day.

In my case, I had one dysfunctional thought that was “ruining my life.” (To be true to the cognitive therapy approach, it wasn’t actually “ruining my life.” It was actually preventing me from calling my editor.) Well, actually, it’s not even true that the thought was preventing me from calling my editor. I was choosing not to call my editor based on my belief that calling him would be painful and humiliating. I was afraid to call my editor because of what I feared might happen. I had an unrealistic belief about what would happen when I called my editor. I also had untrue beliefs about my own capacities. I had this dysfunctional thought running through my head that said, “I can’t write, I can’t write, I can’t write.” I feared that in some way this belief would become evident to my editor, and then I would feel humiliated and hopeless and I would sort of want to kill myself. Not that I was ever clinically suicidal but, like you, I sometimes wished it would just all be over.

Anyway, my thought was, “I can’t write.” That was the untrue thought that was causing me depression and anxiety and, more practically, preventing me from calling my editor.

(Oh, god, it’s even doing it now. I am not out of the grip of this professional trauma, this awful sense of dread about my professional relationships. I felt it just then!: A slumping of the shoulders, a sudden feeling of tiredness, hopelessness, distraction.)

So, I replace that thought with a dose of reality. What my therapist, bless his heart, told me to do was to collect tangible evidence to counter that thought. In my case, it meant making an inventory of the stories I had actually written and had published. It turned out there were a lot of them. They were, as the lawyers like to say, prima facie evidence. I saw before me evidence that the thought in my head was untrue.

Here is a side note. About my relationship with my parents. Oh, gee, I’m just remembering this now. This is odd. Because when I was drafting this reply, I went into a whole long thing about how great my parents were. and yet, in this session with the cognitive therapist, I realized that, counter to my belief about my undying and complete love for my father, I was in actual fact living in fear of him in one respect: That my writing was not good enough for him. Because he was a harsh critic of other people’s writing. That I often heard him say things like, “this guy can’t write worth a damn,” and “that lady can’t write,” and “why can’t these people learn to write for heavens’ sake!” For that was part of his professional role, to write, to edit, to judge and evaluate writing, to fix people’s writing, to teach people how to do it, etc. Oh, gee. No wonder I was afraid. He was a very kind and loving man but he had this thing about writing. And it turned out, lo and behold, I was actually living in fear of my father’s disapproval! And I had no idea. I actually did not know this. So that was a big insight. I live with it to this day. I am to this day afraid of people’s disapproval of my writing and it blocks me in many ways. Maybe I should go back to therapy. I probably should.

But anyway … as therapists are wont to say, “This is about you, not about me.”  ha ha it’s always about me. I’m so self-involved. And

I must say, speaking of being self-involved, I am a very lucky person. Right now, I am sitting in my house in Tuscany. The doors are open to the garden, which grows seemingly with a love and life force all its own, and the pomegranate tree and the grape vines and the flowers we recently planted, and the lawn and the birds, it’s a lovely, lovely setting for me and I realize I can turn my attention to that, to my uncanny luck, to my luck in surviving cancer and avoiding poverty and fleeing San Francisco and landing in a beautiful place where the people are kind and the food is good and inexpensive, as is the housing, and I will be OK. I can think about that, or I can think about the grinding despair of my disillusionment with literary editors and agents, my hopelessness about publishing a book of fiction, my fear of trying to publish a book of poetry, the thought that it’s just useless why bother, that they hate me, that I am worthless, that I am a terrible writer, that I’m a lightweight, that nobody will take seriously the literary work of an “Internet advice columnist,” that all the serious writers live in Brooklyn, that I SHOULD HAVE MOVED TO NEW YORK AFTER COLLEGE AND IF I HAD ANY GUTS I WOULD HAVE, that I have always taken the easy way out, the immediate rewards of journalism as opposed to the Olympian heights of “true literary art,” and there goes the sound of the truck that picks up the recycled paper and I am back to my desk here, my gratitude, my gratitude based in reality: That I am fine.

That’s how it works, this whole dysfunctional thoughts machine. Blah Blah Blah.

So I know that Dr. Burns’s analysis is true for me. I just experienced it, just this moment. But it takes work to uncover those dysfunctional thoughts. I didn’t know I had them at first. It was only by making a daily record of dysfunctional thoughts that I came to be conscious of them.

They were operating below the threshold of awareness. That is the tricky part. It is hard to believe in the existence of a thought you are not conscious of, until through the application of a method, you become conscious of it and it becomes real and magnified.

Also: You have to do it. The method in that book worked for me because I did it. It doesn’t work to just know about it. It doesn’t work to just read about how to swing a baseball bat. You have to actually practice swinging the bat. Same thing with this. Reading the book on its own probably would not help. But the book has exercises you do. It tells you how to do them They’re not hard. They help a lot. They helped me.

It is true that I did this under the direction of a therapist. I would recommend that but if it’s not possible I would recommend buying the book and doing the exercises on your own. Maybe get somebody to be your accountability buddy and make sure you do them.  I probably wouldn’t have done the exercises on my own. I need somebody telling me what to do. I need consequences, like, being really embarrassed with the therapist that I didn’t do them. It’s the same with learning Italian. I won’t do it on my own. I’m too whatever. I don’t want to label myself and cause another crazy spiral of self-loathing so I’ll just say that reliable observers will confirm that I don’t study my Italian unless I have a lesson coming up.

OK, so that’s the whole thing there. Cognitive therapy works, and where you need to change your responses to a condition beyond your power to change, it can be a life-changer. Go get that book! Find a therapist to help you do it. I really think it will make it possible for you to live comfortably with this ridiculous situation.

And it is ridiculous. I’m not making light of it or making fun of you but it’s kind of cathartic to just say it’s ridiculous. People will say it’s tragic and oh so sad and all that, and it is, and it causes you great pain, and your own pain is nothing to laugh about, but you do have the power to end that pain and feel comfortable with the situation which while it’s sad and awful is also, let’s be honest, just fucking ridiculous.

You know what I mean? I’m not hurting your feelings when I say that, am I? I’m not violating some unwritten code? I mean, it’s like a situation in “Curb Your Enthusiasm.” It’s so awful that it’s ridiculous. Parents not loving their kids? Who ever heard of such a thing?

So, I send all my love to you. I really believe there is a cure, a solution, a way out, and I pray (do I actually pray? Yeah, ok, sometimes I do, sometimes I actually get down on my knees and pray for things. I don’t think I look very cool when I do it, but I do it) that you will find this solution and you will put it into action and you will feel much, much better.

Thanks for writing. That was a great letter.

Cary T.

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  • Thank you, Black Sheep, for this brave letter. And thank you, Cary, for this engaging and helpful response. So glad to learn that you’re back at the advice game. I read several of your old advice columns years ago and was blown away by your empathy, candor, vulnerability and wise counsel. I also love your writing. Look forward to reading more of these.

  • Cary, I was so surprised to read that you are so hard on yourself as a writer. You are one of my favorite writers. Funny how someone I would see as being so successful would have the same plaguing self doubt as I do, and so many other creatives. Thank you for your vulnerability.

    • Oh gee, yes. I’m glad it is helpful to hear someone tell the truth about that. Yes, one can acquire skill, and even insight, and still be plagued by the same old doubts and fears. I suspect that many writers try to hide these things, but many writers have also confessed to a similar kind of tortured relationship to the work, to self-worth. That’s why I turned to the Amherst Writers and ARtists workshop method, actually, to find a way to participate as a writer with other writers in a healthy way. (I’m in a workshop right now!) … Ciao

  • Oh Cary, a heartfelt letter and response. There are always those folk in our lives who are cold fish and it’s so hard not to try and warm them up. I have a daughter who wants little to do with me and it breaks my heart, yet I have other loving daughters and a loving husband but I keep returning to my wayward child, now in her late 40’s.
    Enjoy your garden and I’ll enjoy what I have as well. it does make me feel so much better than chasing the impossible.

  • Wow, that was good Cary. You mention the word dysfunction. At one time a ‘dysfunction’ was functioning. It was a defense strategy that helped you in a difficult situation. As we mature, our reality changes and that function or defense mechanism no longer works. We need a new one but we may not have developed one yet and use the old one thinking it should still work.
    In regards to tying up our love for ourself when our parents don’t conundrum, both my parents were pedophiles. BOTH of them. What were the odds of that! Nothing was normal. I was blacksheeped out of the family because I sought help. I saw the reality of it, hated it and they didn’t like that.
    We all start out as babies loving our bodies and exploring life and the wonder of our feelings. That ends the minute a parent says hey ie. I don’t like how you cry, or you’re lazy, or you have blobby red nose, and we take that mantle on and believe it. Yes I have a blobby nose and no one will like me. I am 67. I survived. I just now see the trauma and affects it still has in my life but it’s hard but I want to live. I want to feel everything, my toes and my feelings. I want to feel my arms and soul hug my wonderful children in ways my parents never did. It ain’t easy but I’m trying. I love you Cary. Thank you for writing your column today. One day I will try to get to Tuscany. I hear it’s an amazing place to visit let alone live there.

  • Letter writer, I feel for you. I’m so sorry you’ve had this experience with your shitty parents.

    One thing I want to say is that cognitive therapy, the kind recommended in “Feeling Good,” does not work for everyone. It didn’t work for me (I was abused as a child also). If you try it, really do the exercises, and it doesn’t work, don’t blame yourself (you’re too good at that already). Get a therapist who’s had a lot of experience with people who were abused as children. And have compassion for yourself. Your parents are the problem, not you. There’s nothing wrong with you.

  • Cary, Cary, Cary! What is it about writers? What is it about *hip* writers? Never mind, my friend of yore, never mind. Thanks for coming back home, for inviting us once again to Thanksgiving dinner. Clearly, we’ve missed you. It’s so good to have you back in the fold, you of the magical wry solace.
    Love to Norma.

  • As a writer whose parents don’t like her (and yes, it IS fucking ridiculous!), this gave me a lot to chew on. I’m so grateful you’re writing the advice column again, Cary. I really missed you.

    And to the letter writer: I actually took some time — pretty significant time, really — to grieve. To mourn the parents I wanted, that my parents could not be, as well as the parents they actually were. To mourn the relationships I so desperately wanted and tried so very hard to build with them, alone, out of nothing but my own grit and a hefty dose of martyrdom. Relationships that do not work out are ultimately dreams destined to remain unfulfilled and I believe those lost dreams deserve a period of mourning. It is important to feel your feelings. Sometimes things suck and are sad and disappointing and painful. Sometimes you want to scream or cry. I also believe in crying until you are done — then you can start to rebuild your life, just a little differently than before, without the people who caused you so much pain right at the center of it. They can take a more appropriate place, at a distance that doesn’t sting so sharply, that can’t wound as deeply.

    I wish you a lot of love — and peace.

  • I was blessed to marry an alcoholic.
    I say blessed, because without going thru some harrowing years with an active alcoholic I would never have gotten to a point of complete defeat. And without that feeling of desperation I would never have done something completely out of character for me, (I reached out for help), which quickly resulted in my spouse going into rehab and me attending my first Al-Anon meeting. Without Al-Anon meetings I would never have processed my anger that my parents didn’t love me and never would (at least not the way I hoped they would). I say never, because I’d been really successful up until the age of 52 at suppressing those feelings. And by successful I mean it was horrible, I stuffed all of my feelings, I was emotionally distant, I engaged in compulsive behavior of my own, I didn’t even realize I was angry.
    We think we’re going to Al-Anon meetings because a friend or family member is an alcoholic and we think that maybe Al-Anon will help *them.* Instead, in a slow, gentle, healing way, we discover some of our own issues and unhelpful behaviors and blindspots, and we not only find better ways of dealing with the alcoholics in our life, we also learn better tools for dealing with our boss, and the guy who cut us off in traffic, and our abusive parents…in short, it helps us in all aspects of our life. It’s been called free therapy…not to disparage therapy in any way.
    I didn’t really know anything about Al-Anon before my first meeting. But I do have a fuzzy memory of reading somewhere that my only regret in attending Al-Anon meetings would be that I didn’t start 5 years sooner.

  • I agree that it is “fucking ridiculous” and not all that uncommon. My father was treated the same way by his parents. It goes on and on.
    Cary, I loved your response to a wonderful question. And I loved your description of your prayers. Mine are about the same, not “too cool” or often answered, still I have never been able to give up on that belief I was taught as a kid.
    Great column!
    Cynthia Yancey

  • And that was a great response, Cary. Thanks! I’m a self-published writer and go through this crap. Reading your descriptions of what it’s like for you was so helpful. Knowing that even successful writers like you, yeah, like you, go through this crap. The more honest you are about your sh*&, the better I like you. I’m just really grateful for your honesty.

    To the Black Sheep: I’m so sorry about what you’re going through. Your anguish is palpable and I wish I could take it from you and make it disappear. I don’t have this issue with my parents but, come to think of it, with a sibling. I had to make peace with that he’ll never love me. I’m 63 and I managed that about two years ago.

    What helped me (and I don’t know but hope it’ll be useful) is that I realized I could uncouple him loving me from me loving him. When I did that two things happened. 1) because I was no longer busy analyzing the situation, I saw what a dick he is. Why *not* love me? I mean , come on, that’s just dumb. 2) Being true to myself meant that I would love him because that’s just how I am, a people lover (not necessarily a people liker). I realized how I feel isn’t about him and how he feels isn’t about me. Just like Cary wrote. Not loving his sibling, hey that’s his problem, what an idiot. An idiot I love.

    The life-changing insight was that how I dealt with it was the problem. I tried to rip my love for him out of my heart and the majority of my pain came from that.

    Initially reading your letter, I felt for you so much but I didn’t even remember that I had that issue with my sibling. It only came up when I started writing. That’s how in the past it is.

    Basically what I want to say is that you can totally heal. And the cognitive approach can really work. I would buy that book Cary recommends, for sure!

    Your parents are just living a life where they’re racist and ignorant, and working life out by scape-goating (Fox-like), gasslighting, stonewalling, being rude and judgmental.

    There’s always a spark of the divine or holy or sacred in everyone. But there can be such a difference between who people are and how they’re being. Yours are *being* dicks. You can say, Well, they’re my parents. They’re bigoted, racist, and mean and too asinine to love their daughter but I love them from afar where their dumbasses can’t hurt me. Poor fucks having to live with themself.

    I wish you all the best and blessings, Black Sheep. The black ones are the cool ones ????. So, love yourself!

  • Oh my Lord upstairs! What a landfill full of sad, heartbreaking to me, accumulations of hurtful wounds this embattled writer has experienced. Good advice Carry, but I would certainly go a step further, and suggest to this wounded child/now grown into an adult, that they stop trying! Stop, the neurological pattern of the cycle created from enduring unbearable, tormenting abuse. Let the love not given from emotionally challenged parents turn inward and imagine love of self. Use what ever works, walks in nature, sensual pleasuring, and if the writer does have a belief in God or in a higher power, may she then imagine a celestial paradise for basking in love, feeling love, giving and receiving love. Join a group that supports nurturing one another in each other’s journey, and fi one is not available, create such a group.

  • I would also ask if Black Sheep likes her parents? It sounds like Black Sheep doesn’t (I don’t think I’d like them, either). And, as a therapist used to say to me more than once, “Why keep going back to an empty well?” Ask this with a compassionate, not blaming, tone of voice.

  • I read “Feeling Good’ years ago after you recommended it in one of your columns. I did the exercises without a therapist and it still really helps – still to this day. Thank you for writing ‘Black Sheep’, and Cary thank you for starting up the column again! We need you now more than ever!

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